Parelli Natural Rider western saddle, preowned with serial numbers 16 1/2 171/4 262435 426, The seat is approx 17 inches, see tape measurement pictures, standard size tree, skirt length approx 24 1/2 inches. Smooth leather with horse head tooled edge, padded bicycle seat, brass hardware and bucking rolls. Add your own center piece for back girth. These saddle retail for $4700.00 new. Excellent training or trail saddle.