Billy Cook Classic trail saddle, preowned with number 1777 on keeper and 11 140217 made in Sulphur OK. The seat measures approx 16.5-17 inches, fqhb, skirt length 28.5. The leather is soft and pliable waffle edge tooled accented with silver conchos and saddle strings for your trail gear. This saddle would cost over $3600.00 to have made now. Add your own center piece for back girth, has some wear on the stirrups. Nice saddle for enjoying the trail.